He wasn’t to know that of course. It was a very ..I have no recollection of that recall customer.. I own an E61 so wouldn't normally look here, but I came across this thread whilst looking for something else. Myself I am checking for chain rattle. '08 to early '10 cars - known as the 130kW version N47T is the updated one. Ok thanks for that. BMW N47 is a four-cylinder common rail diesel engine from BMW with many improvements over its predecessor, the BMW M47. If you do we will share it here no problem. N47 is the one plagued by timing chain stretching because of strain imposed by HPFP. The BMW timing chain settlement benefits former U.S. owners and lessees of the following vehicle models: 2012 to 2015 X1 SAV; 2013 to 2015 X3 SAV; 2015 X4 SAV; … I phoned my dealer today to be told there are no outstanding recalls for my car. I am just an ordinary guy. New - URGENT RECALL for BMW E46 3 Series cars produced between November 1997 and June 2000. If you have any questions please contact your local BMW Centre or BMW Customer Information Services on 1890 719 421 or email customerservices@bmw.ie, who can provide advice. ok just copy the end code part after the ‘v=’ so (youtube com/watch?v=Qvj_40jTyeE) for me here and I will post it for you. One noise we read about is a ‘swooshing sound’ likened to that of a washing machine. BMW 320d 2.0 Diesel Engine Problems. Hi same thing, son has BMW X3 57 reg only 77k miles, timing chain gone total engine rebuild needed. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! The engine also became available in the 5 Series BMW E60 and E61 from September 2007, several months after the 5 series was face lifted, during which time the older M47 remained … In a result, it will start bending all the 16 valves, twist and snap both camshafts, shatter the rocket arms and also snap the camshaft housing. BMW Recalls many (n47) engines timing chain – revisited and washing machine noises. The settlement provides reimbursement for various BMW vehicle repairs linked to this issue. Helping to source a new car for my partner I got to speak to some dealers (which I do enjoy) and one mentioned the n47 issue as we saw a pre affected model and this was a ‘plus’ for that vehicle. Some perhaps unrelated but related news just in a recall affecting many models see here but also not fully clear on models affected. The sound can be heard on the video as a constant rhym. The problem affected the timing chains on BMW models with N47 engines. He said the engines on the 320d after were awful. Or was your car OK as far as you were concerned until the dealer got in touch to suggest you might need some work done? The design fault is located in the chain tensioners and possibly timing chains. Hopefully they will know what to listen out for. Car has just had all chains replaced and new clutch this week. When a timing chain … Hope it helps! D Note: These instructions are provided for guidance only. Just search yahoo or bing for ‘n47 timing chain’ etc and you will get a long list of worried drivers myself included with the ticking time bomb under the bonnet. If these items fail, the complaint alleged, it could lead to sudden engine failure and loss of power. Only some cars are selected for the recall so you will have to ask first your dealer if your car is included in this action or not. I don’t unfortunately have any advice at this stage for you. Other issue is I read somewhere that BMW assure F30 chains will not snap even if they start to make noise, again this is all read online and if you try ask BMW they just deny any issues. And thanks for the information I am sure it will help people here decide what to do if anything. 0800 325600 ext 302200 it should be Nicola and she is happy to receive your calls about your N47 engine. I had it confirmed by a specialist up North as early chain noise (not the loudest). Just to make any one aware who drives an early LCI (facelift) diesel 1 Series fitted with an N47 engine. A recall is a safety critical action implemented by the manufacturer due to design or construction tolerance which may affect the safe operation of the product. I suspect they were trying to create extra revenue and then bill BMW for warranty/recall work. Issue is that F30 N47 is a later engine and limited confirmed cases (from what I can find) of full failure. Learn how your comment data is processed. Yes, the care was OK (at least the dealer didn't check it before). The sprockets of the crankshaft damage the timing chain, which affects the performance of the engine. Yes I find if I ask a reasonable question it is rude to not answer or answer from a statement. “One noise we need to look out for is that of a swooshing noise – so if your car starts to sound like a washing machine worry..”, It’s an expensive replacement pre failure as it’s inaccessible but if it goes then your engine will need rebuilding and a local garage is specialising in this and they are doing 3-6 per week at the moment ! The N47 engine debuted in March 2007 in the facelifted 1 Series BMW E87 and E81 and was available in the 1 Series BMW E82 and E88, which were introduced later in the same year.. Usage in other models. BMW Timing Chain Diagnosis & Repair If you own a BMW model from any of the BMW 1, 3 or 5 series manufactured between 2007 and 2011 then your car is liable to have a timing chain problem.The luxury German machines are prone to a specific engine problem, a timing-chain-wear caused largely to the use of the newer N47 motor engine. Despite numerous complaints of BMW timing chains snapping on 2007 – 2009 models with N47 engine, BMW still deny it’s a manufacturing fault. yes please let me what we can do to get more people with this issue to sign up petition thanks. I have not had such an obtuse phone call in a while and I didn’t mind saying so. The BMW is ignoring the problem and offers different solutions to different customers. BMW timing chains have snapped on a range of models across the 1, 3 & 5 Series, most commonly affecting the N47 diesel. BMW Recalls many (n47) engines timing chain – revisited and washing machine noises, http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/23p5j5wzPtYflS7kFvmKVZf/bmw-deny-engine-failures-are-due-to-manufacturing-fault. The BMW diesel engines N47 produced between 2007 and 2011 all have a particular design problem with the timing chains, they are very weak and stretch over time causing them to then snap. I fear I now have the dreaded swoosh swoosh sound from my later F30 320d 2012 model car – Oil always changed every 8,000 – 10,000. So after a change that is the expected safe time to change. I was taken aback as this is my engine ! There is no good news really a metal chain is supposed to last the lifespan of a car Vs a timing belt that is cheaper and needs replacing every so often (a subject for discussion in itself is when..). The N47 engine is a 2.0 litre diesel unit fitted to BMW's 1, 3 and 5 Series as well as to SUV's. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. This is a great before and after video demonstrating the chain noise…, So check your car’s engine for noise. Please refer to the vehicles manufacturers’ instruction or a reputable data provider. My car was built in dec 2007 and it will be repaired by BMW Required fields are marked *. There exist a number of PUMA measures issued from BMW, in an attempt to correct the timing chain issue at the lowest possible cost. I guess it is available all over Europe. BMW RECALL INFORMATION. Search here your BMW vehicle by VIN: to check for recalls enter the 17 digits of your Vehicle Identification Number. Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:10 pm I've not had the best 7/8 months with cars. First use. He said to call BMW as they had some recalls going on and it has even been highlighted on watchdog here I did ask for permission from BMW UK and Nicola herself since I felt this was decent editorial; to attribute the message that there is NO RECALL on these cars/engines and was given the name and extension of the operator. Docket Number: 2:17-cv-07386. If you are aware that your vehicle requires a recall and you wish to book with your local retailer online please visit BMWService.ie. Can you take some video of the noise and post? Any advise on etting this sorted before the chain snaps? The user CalamariFritti on Boards.ie (who seems to be knowledgeable - Post #12), had this to say: Chain and tensioner had a problem leading to the chain getting a tiny bit longer over time. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B52...o4NE8wanc/view. The engine timing chain is very weak – it stretches over time, and ultimately snaps. Thanks for the info. So in order to do any repairs, the … Hi did you manage to listen to my uploaded video of my F30 N47? They are not measuring the noise of the timing chains. He said the engines on the 320d after were awful. Obviously BMW fitted the timing chain to the rear of the engine little expecting the fault to occur. Yes I can tomorrow and upload then link here. Thank you very much indeed. I agree, thats why I made the post but I cannot do it alone, we need to get together and sign a petition or something. 2010-11 BMW F10 520d: N47 timing chain failure For 2.0-litre N47 four-cylinder turbo-diesel engines manufactured between March 2007 and March 2011, excessively sharp teeth on the crankshaft sprocket could damage, or break, the timing chain. Hi guys. Bayerische Motoren Werke Aktiengesellschaft and BMW of North America, LLC are settling a class action claiming that the timing chain or oil pump drive chain in certain BMW vehicles is defective. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/23p5j5wzPtYflS7kFvmKVZf/bmw-deny-engine-failures-are-due-to-manufacturing-fault, I recorded the sound of my engine on startup here for reference 1st April 2016. I asked specifically about this but they had no knowledge of it. I think they're treating it differently here in the UK. A few days ago, a recall action was started for the N47 timing chain problem. The latter are failures.  Warranties will often cover a water pump failure and not a belt but if the pump goes a good garage should do the belt as its often in the same area of work. After the mitigation, there were far fewer engine failures due to it, but the N47 continued to experience timing chain stretch which allowed for a noisy engine. I purchased a 2012 328i sport last year in Canada with 103,000 km. Yes I understand that. BMW has now admitted a design fault in it’s N47 engines installed in vehicles manufactured between February 2007 and June 2008. Previously, timing belts and chain setups have always lived on the front of the engine where they are relatively accessible for maintenance such as a check upon change. So buy a second hand car with this mileage then look for the belt work or factor in doing that shortly after and talk to your garage about the cost of changing that. 2 talking about this. What did the replacement come to. Link, Your email address will not be published. In the case of BMW N47 timing chain snaps, there is a collision with pistons take place between the exhaust valves and the inlet that results in massive engine damage. If I were to say what I have most commonly heard is that a new belt goes for 80k miles. Just to confirm where do you live? Build date was September 08. The thing is, ALL N47, N47T, N47S engines are affected! Knowing what to listen out for. Any decent garage that is. BMW 2.0 diesel (N47/N47D20A) Ah yes, the (in)famous N47 with its well-known and documented timing chain problem. Hi all. Helping to source a new car for my partner I got to speak to some dealers (which I do enjoy) and one mentioned the n47 issue as we saw a pre affected model and this was a ‘plus’ for that vehicle. Company: BMW This recall is an extension of another recall which took place in April 2017, when BMW recalled 36,410 petrol-fuelled models. I'm in Scotland. The BMW 320d 2.0 Diesel N47D20A and the BMW 320d 2.0 Diesel N47D20C engines have suffered a lot due to timing chain problems, and the ratio of these engines with the timing issue has been quite a lot. Was yours noisy which caused you to go to the dealers and request a repair? Adding insult to injury, there is also the absurd positioning of the timing chain at the back of the engine. But normally you wouldn't suspect a problem unless the chain was noisy. '10 onwards, carried over … Collect it tomorrow so will do an after video to show difference. I don’t really hear or know what to listen for. It’s a definite plus but when it should be done changes from mechanic to mechanic and that’s really confusing to the owner or potential purchaser of second hand cars. I suggest you tube or facebook I think you can then post the link here. I said it was even on the TV are you denying that – I am simply trying to get information on my car to see if it was post modification. 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